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Natasha Seatter

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT as a driver who has competed in low-level domestic and regional motorsport championships with limited to no success. Article reads as a promotional piece – name-dropping circuits raced at, fellow competitors and sponsors – and the user page of the original editor (User:Femaleracedriver) redirects to this article, indicating a WP:COI. Only two sources, one of which is a personal website, and an internet search reveals a lack of SIGCOV. MSportWiki (talk) 22:10, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Gallifrey

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Following my recent Skaro nom, I'm also nominating Gallifrey as well. I took a more in-depth look at Gallifrey as, unlike, Skaro, it was mentioned a lot more in sources, requiring a more exhaustive look to pick apart the trivial mentions from actual analysis.

News sources only turned up plot recaps or mentions of media that featured Gallifrey as a location (With a few minor bits of trivia thrown in between).

Scholar, including a peruse through the Wikipedia Library, turned up a few hits, but all of them only had Gallifrey in the title, and barely mentioned it within the text, or only did so in terms of plot recap, context information, or trivial mentions. One source mentioned Gallifrey extensively, but this was due to it covering Gallifrey Base and Gallifrey One, fansites that take Gallifrey's name but do not themselves give notability to Gallifrey due to having no correlation beyond naming.

Books turned up similarly, also pulling up a Gallifrey Base/Gallifrey One source, but did pull up one actually good hit of WP:SIGCOV in the form of the book "Ruminations, Peregrinations, and Regenerations: A Critical Approach to Doctor Who," which covers Gallifrey's society in an analytical manner for a few pages. This was the only hit I found, however, and every other book source was official material, trivial mentions, or only being mentioned as part of background or plot recap.

Given there is only one piece of actual coverage, and the rest of the sources either fall under WP:NOTPLOT or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, I don't believe this subject meets the WP:GNG. It has a viable AtD in the form of Time Lord, the species who hails from Gallifrey and is heavily associated with it in-canon, but it doesn't seem to have any individual notability separate from any other facet of the show. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 22:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Brendon Cook

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Driver fails WP:NMOTORSPORT, having mainly contested low-level domestic championships (state Formula Ford, hillclimbing, national Production Cars) and not achieved notable success in international/higher-level series (British FFord, AUSCAR). Whilst the article appears to be well sourced on the surface, most of the sources direct to a websites' home page rather than an article – a quick internet search for "Brendon Cook racing driver" also brings up routine database sites and Wikipedia, therefore a lack of SIGCOV. Furthermore, I have reason to believe that User:Bjcook, the article creator, is the subject of the article and therefore in violation of WP:COI. MSportWiki (talk) 21:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Home Town Hero

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources, other than a biography ([1]) and an album review ([2]) by AllMusic, which isn't a lot. A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Under the Influence of Giants, since three of the members were in both bands. toweli (talk) 21:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kabir Shahani

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Entirely promotional and unsourced Amigao (talk) 19:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:NOTPROMO and WP:GNG. Even if WP:SIGCOV is found, the article is still too promotional to be kept unless it is completely rewritten.21:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Delete: PROMO, he's stepped down from a job [3]. Rest of the coverage found is similar, I don't see notability. Article now uses flowery text, could likely have been speedy deleted. Oaktree b (talk) 21:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Aarab

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Not sure how this passed AfC. Almost certainly a promotional hoax. All the sources cited in the article are dead and likely never existed. This "singer" doesn't have a single video/song on Youtube or any other platforms. There is 0 coverage of him, and I searched his name looking for both coverage in Arabic and French. Mooonswimmer 19:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. @Mooonswimmer Did you try searching in Arabic? I don't think it is a hoax as this link popped up when I searched using his Arabic name: [4]. He clearly is a real musician since his albums have a discogs listing. Whether he is notable is another matter.4meter4 (talk) 19:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On second look, I'm not sure this is the same artist. That complicates matters in sourcing content.4meter4 (talk) 19:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The musician in the Discogs listing is clearly not the 20-year-old Riffian singer-songwriter and producer the article is supposedly about. Mooonswimmer. Yes, I did search in Arabic. Nothing at all. 19:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kanawha people

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WP:TNT, this doesn't appear to be about a notable topic, and I can't find any scholarly literature discussing the subject. The idea that the Kanawha people are the ancestor's of Native Americans appears to be fictitious, or at least incredibly fringe. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Piscataway people per sources like [5], which make clear that this is merely another name for this ethnic group. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete the original Special:PermaLink/229303722 shows this was an essay titled "Kanawha Valley's Prehistoric people", that has been mojibaked into its current form. Walsh90210 (talk) 18:53, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense. I'm suprised an article as bad as this one has stuck around for this long. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:10, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is a real people group mentioned in history journals and books. [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]. I'm not saying the current text is accurate, but I have a big problem with deleting an article on a Native American people group. That would be participating in erasure which is morally problematic in light of the history of Native American genocide in the United States. The answer is to trim out unsupported content and validate what we can with the sources we can locate. Stubifying it would be better than deletion. 4meter4 (talk) 19:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When people are writing "Kanawha people" are they referring to a distinct ethnic group, or a general term for Native Americans inhabiting the Kanawha area? If the latter, I hardly see how this warrants a standalone article. The sources you mention are passing references that are completely inadequate to construct any kind of meaningful article about the topic. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that sources better than this are needed. However, it is clearly a people group as they are being referenced as living in New England in one source, and Kentucky in another at various points in history. It's not attached just to the Kanawha Valley. I'll see if I can find anything in JSTOR or EBSCOE that gives a better defined definition.4meter4 (talk) 19:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first four of those sources appear to be referring to white settlers in the Kanawha Valley. The only mention in the Cotterill source, in a passage about a surveying party in Kentucky, is in the sentence, So many of the Kanawha people had joined the expedition that there were now thirty-three men in the party, although four of the original members had returned home for fear of the Indians. The Stealy source is talking about the cost of hiring slaves in Kanawha County, and the only mention of Kanawha people is in the phrase, I discover that the people of this country don't like to hire to the Kanawha people, it is a long distance & near the state of Ohio. The Davisson source is about the Union army in Kentucky during the Civil War, long after Native Americans had been forced out of Kentucky, and the only mention of 'Kanawha people' is in the sentence, I propose ... to induce the Kanawha people to take a more decided course. The Engineering and Mining Journal source, from 1910, says, The New River and Kanawha people have been busy in New England territory this spring, offering coal at very low prices. I think it is quite clear that those sources are referring to white settlers/residents of the Kanawha Valley, and not to any group Native American people. Donald Albury 21:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It could be, but the Scoggins source below clearly is referring to a Native people group that the Kanawha Valley is named after (not the other way around). That people group lived in several places according to that source. That source is enough to establish that deletion is not the answer here and WP:ATD at the very least is necessary.4meter4 (talk) 22:05, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think this is referring to St. Albans Site. Haven't looked through all the "Kanawha people" links above but the appear to have been misread. fiveby(zero) 19:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This old article on the history of Kanawha County from West Virginia University political science department says that the Kanawha were a people who lived in the area during the early British colonial Period, but this honestly this isn't a great source and I haven't been able to find anything better, so maybe a redirect to Kanawha_River#History would be better. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the existing article there wood be Adena culture. oops colonial period, will look for more. fiveby(zero) 19:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This tribe, a branch of the Algonquin family, was closely related to the Nanticokes and Delawares who resided in what are now the states of Delaware and Maryland. During the seventeenth century, the name of this tribe was variously recorded by early English settlers as “Conoys,” “Conoise,” “Canawese,” “Cohnawas,” “Canaways,” and ultimately, “Kanawhas.”
— KANAWHA Michael C. Scoggins

Conoys redirects to Piscataway people

looks like a museum bulletin but by a published author. fiveby(zero) 19:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that's definitely an improvement. Looking at other sources, they seem to agree on the synonymy between Conoys and Piscataway, so I would support redirecting to that article (though I am unclear if as to whether the term "Kanawha" has been applied to multiple distinct Native American groups). Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:55, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how much forward we are here. Scoggins looks to be from Hale, John P. (1891). History of the great Kanawha Valley. p. 63. That's this John P. Hale. I'd like to find something more recent and more affirmative than the author's "probably derived by evolution from..." fiveby(zero) 21:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There does appear to be some confusion about the issue in the literature. The Lenape and Their Legends (1885} states: [11]

The fourth member of the Wapanachki was that nation variously called in the old records Conoys, Ganawese or Canaways, the proper form of which Mr. Heckewelder states to be Canai. Considerable obscurity has rested on the early location and affiliation of this people. Mr. Heckewelder vaguely places them "at a distance on the Potomac," and supposes them to have been the Kanawhas of West Virginia. This is a loose guess. They were, in fact, none other than the Piscataways of Southern Maryland, who occupied the area between Chesapeake Bay and the lower Potomac, about St. Mary's, and along the Piscataway creek and Patuxent river.

The Indian wars of Pennsylvania (1929) p. 53 states [12]: The Conoy, also called the Ganawese and the Piscataway, inhabited parts of Pennsylvania during the historic period. They were an Algonquin tribe, closely related to the Delawares, whom they called "grandfathers," and from whose ancestral stem they no doubt sprang. Heckewelder, an authority on the history of the Delawares and kindred tribes, believed them to be identical with the Kanawha, for whom the chief river of West Virginia is named ; and it seems that the names, Conoy and Ganawese, are simply different forms of the name Kanawha, though it is difficult to explain the application of the same name to the Piscataway tribe of Maryland, except on the theory that this tribe once lived on the Kanawha.

The 2022 book chapter "Tribal Collaborations and Indigenous Representation in Higher Education: Challenges, Successes, and Suggestions for Attaining the SDGs" states: The Piscataway Rico Newman, Piscataway elder and MIHEA participant, relays some history of the Piscataway people: The Piscataway-Kanawha (Piscataway) are the “People Who Live Where Waters Blend Below Rapids.” Prior to colonization, the Piscataway developed well-orchestrated lifeways that sustained them for centuries.

Reading the literature. "Kanawha" also appears to be used for a stone projectile point type produced in the early Holocene, long before the colonial period. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. Based on Scoggins, it seems like it would be possible to keep the article if it were substantially rewritten. However, it would be equally plausible to incorporate that content into the Piscataway people article and redirect it to that page. Either would be fine, but I do think closing this AFD is going to require someone to step in do the work of either recrafting the current page, or writing a bit in the Piscataway people article so that a redirect is appropriate. That article currently doesn't even mention the Kanawha people.4meter4 (talk) 21:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there is really anything to say in any article yet. Appreciate your view on erasure but in my opinion worse would be getting this wrong and creating some fiction about a people or tribe. fiveby(zero) 22:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is enough evidence between the journal article presented by the nominator above (who is advocating for a redirect) and the Scoggins source to put something into the Piscataway people article at the very least. Scoggins is after all a published historian. At some point, we just have to trust subject matter experts and their judgement. Worse in my view would be to ignore these sources as a form of WP:Systemic bias; something wikipedia struggles with when it comes to marginalized people groups (which has been researched).4meter4 (talk) 22:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aahan Gopinath Achar

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria Shrug02 (talk) 17:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC. Some of the cited sources don't even mention the subject, and therefore don't validate the content they are supposed to be validating. The others are all passing mentions; all in WP:ROUTINE press releases. Most of the actual content is supported only by the ESPN cricket website which has zero prose and is a statistics table. This is not significant coverage.4meter4 (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kassim Nassoro

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC. None of the sources have in-depth coverage of Nassoro. The article is mostly based on a cricket database which per the 2022 RFC is not considered substantial coverage toward notability.4meter4 (talk) 21:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ally Kimote

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. None of the sources address the subject directly or in detail other than sports databases which have been deemed not relevant towards proving notability. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 21:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abhik Patwa

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. There is no significant coverage in secondary sources for this player. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 21:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Akshay Puri

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rezza Gaznavi

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aritra Dutta

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aman Desai

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yasim Murtaza

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adil Mehmood

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Martin Coetzee

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdul Majid (cricketer)

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Talla Ndao

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Having a career where he played 87 minutes in the Japanese leagues (22 minutes in the first, 22 in the second and 43 in the third), no notability is apparent. Quite the opposite, actually. How about the sources? It would require good sources for him to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. The ja:wiki have some primary sources and a Gekisaka article that barely mentions him. web.ultra-soccer.jp have several pieces which is WP:ROUTINE coverage in my view. Geschichte (talk) 17:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Koken Kuroki

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This footballer would not even meet the old "professional" guideline. He played in the leagues of Macedonia (60 minutes), Malta, Oman and Georgia and the second league of Bulgaria. No significant and independent coverage (including the ja:wiki) to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 17:15, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rakibul Hasan

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Fails to meet significant coverage criteria. I PRODed this article but then discovered it had already been done in the past so am now AFDing it. Shrug02 (talk) 17:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Global Language Monitor

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"Company" identifies no product or marketable service, notes no clients, as of October 2024 has no recent web or social media presence, url is for sale. Sources are dead and unrecoverable. It does however seem to have been a prolific producer of press releases and had garnered some publicity. Just no evidence it has ever existed as a real company. Doprendek (talk) 16:29, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep. I share the nominator's skepticism about the company's status as a company. However, claims attributed to this company have been reported frequently in the media. This in turn has triggered numerous debunkings in the linguistics blogosphere, as well as posts complaining more generally about the company's tendency towards misinformation. This isn't quite the gold standard of SIGCOV, but it's in the ballpark. Additionally, I think there's an IAR argument to be made in favour of keeping, namely that the article (if well-maintained) could help journalists vet their sources. Botterweg (talk) 22:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete it is a defunct website that Language Log didn't like 15 years ago. Is there any more to be said? Older versions of this article have excessively-long wordlists from their website added by promotional editing, but nothing interesting about the company. Just because it is cited more than twice doesn't mean it meets GNG. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not going to support keeping this just because non-US sources mistakenly believed it to be something it was not; but I acknowledge that if there are enough of those sources there will not be consensus to delete. Walsh90210 (talk) 18:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 16:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Several analysis of this company in Gscholar, [13], [14] were the first two that came up. They seem like RS, in Russian I think. Oaktree b (talk) 17:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Some book mentions of their world language clock [15]. Sounds interesting, too bad it's not around anymore. Oaktree b (talk) 22:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was procedural close‎. The prior nomination for deletion only closed a few hours before this. Please see WP:RENOM. Malinaccier (talk) 17:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Storm Prediction Center meso-gamma mesoscale discussions

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See the previous nomination - consensus was drawn-out but of the four editors involved three were in favor of deletion on grounds of Original Research, alternatively creating a new page with a new focus similar to this, with the problem boiling down to it not being marked whether any mesoscale discussion is considered "mesogamma" - each item on the list has to be determined by a Wikipedia editor. Departure– (talk) 15:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Feels like given the 2nd AFD was just closed today by Malinaccier as no consensus (and the first AFD in 2023 was closed as keep), this should have been discussed with the closer first and then perhaps brought up at WP:Deletion review if you still think the close was incorrect, which in part says Discussions to rename the article can continue outside of AfD. Skynxnex (talk) 16:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in agreement with Skynxnex here: I'm not sure why you decided to bring this to AfD less than 90 minutes after it was closed. Procyon117 (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Antonio Torres Carrillo

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Fails WP:GNG. No evidence of WP:SIGCOV from secondary sources Demt1298 (talk) 15:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: no evidence of significant (any?) coverage from reliable sources. Seems like the only sources that exist are football databases. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 16:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 21:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caspian Airlines Flight 6936

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Tag me in the below discussion so i can get my quickest reponse possible out to you.

Failure of WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE and WP:NOTNEWS incident seems to have had a fairly short news cycle. Additionally no passenger or exterior fatalities and only a total loss of the plane. Lolzer3k 15:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep - per my comments at the 1st AfD discussion, a mere 2 months ago. A second AfD is not justified at this point in time. Mjroots (talk) 18:41, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Portable object (computing)

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I'm really not sure about this one - it seems like it might be a dupe of Portable Distributed Objects, or could be merged into that article. It's also unclear if .po files are still used for this purpose. Smallangryplanet (talk) 13:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, or merge. Looking on Google Scholar, this seems to be a different concept than Portable Distributed Objects. The article could use some clarification for its uses, particularly for translation, but I see enough notability for it to stay. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 16:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is notable. 1250metersdeep (talk) 18:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Portable Distributed Objects: This source on the Portable Distributed Objects article refers to CORBA as a usage of "distributed objects": "Creating distributed applications is generally considered difficult. While object-oriented programming promises to make the task more tractable, many programmers still shudder when subjects such as CORBA, OLE, SOM, and OpenDoc arise. However, programming with distributed objects does not have to be difficult, if you start with the right foundation." Additionally, the nominated article lists CORBA as a model that enables usage of "portable distributed objects". This indicates to me that "portable distributed objects" and "portable objects" are terms that can be used interchangeably or are so similar in meaning that separate articles are more likely to cause confusion for readers. The concept of portable (distributed) objects may or may not be notable, but that misses the point of this AfD, which is to discuss whether these two pages discuss the same concept. HyperAccelerated (talk) 18:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Akshata Krishnamurthy

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Page does not seem to meet WP:NACADEMIC, reads more like a self-promotional page, and focuses more on what the subject's projects have achieved rather than the subject themselves. Tammy0507 (talk) 13:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per half agreement with nom. Although we can rewrite the article, if NACADEMIC is not met, there is no point Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 15:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Nepal Premier League

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No evidence this upcoming season actually passes WP:GNG, and so a separate season article is not required. All useful information is being captured in Nepal Premier League main article, this is a needless WP:CFORK. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not a policy-based reason for keeping this article, and also violates WP:AGF/WP:NPA. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lubo Smid

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Not meeting WP GNG nor ANYBIO; promotional page with no sufficient media coverage according to WP RS RodrigoIPacce (talk) 11:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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comment, It is said that Forbes is a reliable source according to WP:FORBES. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete + comment I looked at this more and also read WP:ANYBIO further. I dont see an exactly "well known" award. Read this quote from WP:ANYBIO:
The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times;
I feel that just the "Esquire Man 2023" award and the "Forbes 30 Under 30" award just don't fit this rule- I dont exactly think these are major. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Both the Esquire and Forbes titles are local licenses and the awards are pay to play or subtle variations on cash actually changing hands. 30 under 30 and like sublists are a pretty debased currency these days... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Son Jeong-ryun

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 11:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – This article was previously nominated for deletion due to meeting a guideline that doesn't exist anymore. The only source listed is a statistics website. Corresponding article on Korean Wikipedia is also a stub, which might help improve otherwise. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whitney Adebayo

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This person is only notable for achieving second place in a reality TV show. Nothing else about here is notable. There are references from a variety of sources but again these only relate to her appearance in one series of of the TV show and nothing else. Per WP:NOTDIR we don't have to have articles on every participant in a reality show, surely only the winner is (borderline) notable but people rarely remember who came second. 10mmsocket (talk) 10:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – she still achieves SIGCOV as there are various independent sources talking about her and her life (especially her wig business). Just because she didn't win doesn't automatically mean she's not notable. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 12:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Florat

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As of November 2024, there has been no new media coverage or updates since the previous deletion proposal, and the subject still fails to meet Wikipedia:Notability. Iaof2017 (talk) 10:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ALBANA (artist)

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Subject fails to meet Wikipedia:Notability, with no verifiable career achievements or significant news coverage to support its inclusion. Iaof2017 (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete. I dont see anything that claims of the career achievements- no point. Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mechanics of planar particle motion

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Original Research Graphitr (talk) 09:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is based on original research, as was originally pointed out on the talk page in 2012 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mechanics_of_planar_particle_motion#c-Flau98bert-2012-09-09T15:53:00.000Z-Brews_ohare-2008-10-14T01:41:00.000Z), and does not appear to have significantly change in that regard since then. It appears to have originated from a edit war (also pointed out in the linked comment), rather than being started to elucidate a topic which deserves a full article in its own right. Graphitr (talk) 09:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question Original research, maybe, but where exactly do you find this "Original Research"? I see a handful of sources and no ^{[citation needed]} ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, leaning Delete I read the talk page message, but I do see a few problems- an NPOV violation is stated. I see that there still can be original research with the sources- however we will have to double check to make sure it hasn't been fixed. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aside from the direct quotes, the computations and expositions appear to be original (and, although this does not appear relevant to wikpedia policy, I should say incorrect). I did read through them myself: they were not fixed. The section on "Fictitious forces in polar coordinates" and "two terminologies" is pertinent: the article claims that there are two separate definitions or uses of the term "fictitious force", in particular the centrifugal force - one related to coordinates and the other related to non-inertial frames. More specifically, it argues that centrifugal force terms arise in polar coordinates *in inertial frames*. The citations do not back up these claims. Even if this were edited or flagged for editing, this viewpoint propagates through the entire article, and the numerous uncited computations/expositions. Moreover, it is not clear that this topic requires its own article. Graphitr (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT. There might be an encyclopedic topic here, but the page as it stands is a lengthy exercise in POV-pushing and advocacy of non-standard terminology, written in a way that makes it a WP:NOTTEXTBOOK violation. In other words, it's an attempt to write a chapter of a highly idiosyncratic textbook, and thus unsuitable for our purposes. Rescuing it would involve jacking up the title and running a new article beneath. XOR'easter (talk) 20:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fraser Stewart

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The subject is not notable: the article was created by the subject himself (COI violation) and the sources are either unreliable or questionable, with LInkedIn and Spotify being used; there is one source that is reliable in some cases, Apple Music, however here it is not, it is a podcast that probably features the subject talking. Some of the sources, like this one, were written by the subject himself. 750 h+ 08:55, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, this violates WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Sources in the article are unreliable some of which are interviews, and some are written by the subject himself. Mekomo (talk) 10:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DELETE, possibly speedy. COI violation. Article also violates AUTOBIOGRAPHY as per Mekomo, and might violate BLP policy. Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Priya Hassan

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I created Draft:Priya Hassan and despite it being well sourced, it was rejected at AfC. Now a different user, recreated the draft topic but as an article albeit with barely any sources and only 1 reliable source. The draft was deleted but I requested at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. All of the sources on the draft were interviews mostly.

Unneccesary AfD, I put a PROD on the draft but creator removed it. Likely not notable as a director due to lack of wide spread non interview (primary) sources. If this article needs to be kept, it needs to be merged with the draft. The draft had many sources from here [16], many of which relate to the production of the films themselves, not her. DareshMohan (talk) 07:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: and merge the Draft into it (that was deleted at the time of creation. However, why was DareshMohan's draft rejected?). She meets WP:DIRECTOR in my view; the two films she directed seem notable enough. She does qualify for a page. Mushy Yank (talk) 11:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete‎. Fathoms Below (talk) 21:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ijaaz Ebrahim Ikbal

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See Ijaaz Ebrahim. No changes this time around from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ijaaz Ebrahim. Unlike that assessment, International Business Times is unreliable per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Generally_used_sources. DareshMohan (talk) 06:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and SALT should have been speedy G4 IMHO - the sources remain the same. Interesting that Jenny Atkinson's sole contribution to Wikipedia is to create this article (impressive from a standing start, no?) and slam it straight into Mainspace. Her only contribution to Medium is her piece on the subject, AGF and all that, but there's a whiff of sulphur around here... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete - G4: And salt. something very fishy about this 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per G4 rationale. Mekomo (talk) 10:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lazzat with Asad

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Unsourced since creation in 2010 by a now-blocked user. Brought to AfD in 2010 but went to no consensus. There may be Urdu sources I’ve not found, but otherwise no indication of notability, Mccapra (talk) 05:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - wonder why we didn't just go through PROD deletion. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 05:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was previously PRODed. Mccapra (talk) 06:15, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

fails WP:GNG, seems nothing much about it. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 05:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There are many episodes on YouTube. It's clearly a real cooking TV show in Pakistan. Not surprisingly there aren't any sources in English, although there are lots of cooking blogs and pinterest posts in English by fans of the chef and his recipes. This is definitely a topic which could be notable, and deserves someone who speaks Urdu (or perhaps Arabic sources as well?).4meter4 (talk) 06:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It has no sources since its creation in 2010. Searched but nothing was found to show that this possibly will pass notability. This fails all notability guidelines. Mekomo (talk) 10:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ammad Quraishi

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No indication of notability. Being on a school board is not a prominent political position, even if he was the youngest. Article had previously been speedy deleted, both under this title and Ammad Uddin Quraishi. ... discospinster _talk 05:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Just no. Fails WP:NPOL; WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nomination, being on a school board is not notable. Even so, much of the article describes what the whole board did, with no indication of whether he contributed to those activities.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Support nomination rational. Mekomo (talk) 11:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep/Move to Draft - Article reaches both general notability guidelines as established by Wikipedia standards as well as subject specific guidelines for a politician. A school board position in New Jersey is a state level office , thus reaching notability under subnational politician rules. Since an individual or role not accorded presumed notability may still reach notability thresholds through the general notability guidelines, it is important of note that the individual was the youngest muslim elected to public office in the United States (relevant see: Bushra Amiwala). It is important to remember that "notable" is not a synonym for "famous".

Sources cited are reliable, secondary sources of significant press coverage, which has primarily appeared in print or on regional air (TV/radio), and has since been archived. BernieBruh (talk) 11:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Passes WP:NPOL, WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG, being the youngest identity to hold an office in the US is pretty significant. LahrenFan21 (talk) 12:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Simons (politician) and Jaylen Smith (politician) and others were 18yo when elected mayors of their municipalities, so not really a first here. Djflem (talk) 17:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In fairness, mentioning Simons and Smith does give credibility to the WP:NPOL element as well as the WP:SIGCOV element. Simons coverage is local media, and Smith's mayoral election in a municipality 1/22nd the size of Quraishi's still holds notability. Smith of course benefits from national coverage, esp in relation to joining Clinton and Harris at events of course. LahrenFan21 (talk) 21:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment LahrenFan21 having contributed nothing to Wikipedia outside of Ammad Quraishi and BernieBruh having contributed nothing to Wikipedia outside of adding Ammad Qurashi to things before authoring the Ammad Qurashi article we are discussing. Neat. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:SIGCOV. Local school board office holders and coverage of those positions is considered WP:ROUTINE historically at AFD; and dismissed under WP:NOTNEWS. We would need to see media coverage outside of the local area to prove notability for Quraishi, and that just isn't the case in this instance.4meter4 (talk) 15:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - @4meter4 While I do agree that school board office holders are typically considered WP:ROUTINE, as it was notable for Amiwala when published in 2019, it is notable that Quraishi holds a national title in that role. I understand your point on the sourcing of more media coverage, and am working accessing archived national news sources to attach to this article. BernieBruh (talk) 16:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a COI here? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 16:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National title? There's no such thing as a national title for a local school board member. If you mean the claim that he is youngest muslim to be elected in the United States, I don't think that claim is something that is provable. For one, we don't typically go around collecting data on the religions (or ages) of school board members or any other minor elected office holder nationally, and two proving that claim would require analyzing the religions of every school board member and minor elected office holder who has ever held office historically in every city, township, and bureau with elected offices nationally. Somebody could been elected as an auditor in a small town who was younger and muslim thirty years ago, and it probably would have passed without fanfare. In other words, its a highly speculative claim, and the sourcing itself doesn't appear to support the claim under our policy at Wikipedia:EXTRAORDINARY.4meter4 (talk) 16:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the poor choice of words. Appreciate you pointing that out. But yes, referring to the claim of being the youngest muslim to be elected in the United States. It's true that data on religions or ages aren't gone around to be collected, but the latter is public information via filing data and reports. The former can generally be deduced if not reported. I agree with you that someone could have been elected to another position who was younger (than 18) and longer ago, which would then need to be reflected. I disagree that it's a highly speculative claim, but can concede that the sourcing can be stronger on noting that superlative. There is an archived story in a national publication that I'm working to source that had made note of it. Regardless, I still think it makes sense to Keep the article live (not just because I worked on it), but to add a tag to get more source material or citations. BernieBruh (talk) 17:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If an individual's already-thin claim to notability is not supported by any reliable sources then it is inappropriate to publish it. Putting the article in draft will give the opportunity to find archived sources, and I originally did that, but you re-published it anyway. ... discospinster _talk 17:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was following the guidance you left on my talk page about moving the page back when ready for publication, though now I see I should have opted for "submit for review" option instead, so my apologies on that front. My understanding that the notability claim was supported by a reliable source, being The Record (in circulation since 1895). But I'll still work on attaching additional sources. Thanks, BernieBruh (talk) 17:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Record article only states that he's running, not that he's the youngest Muslim to be on a school board. ... discospinster _talk 18:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No COI on the Quraishi article, but a potential COI on the Amiwala one, on which I've refrained from edits and additions. BernieBruh (talk) 16:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trump effect

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Collection of quotes showing no evidence that "Trump effect" exists as a well-defined, studied concept. There's also a big issue of WP:RECENTISM about defining it as the specific effect of Trump's 2024 reelection, given that previous iterations of the same idea were repeatedly deleted in 2016, in 2017 and in 2023.

Also, not a policy but I'm tempted to link to this essay: Wikipedia:Not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and other claims. Hoax? Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As the person who created (or recreated, I suppose) this article, I will go with whatever the consensus is. Perhaps the content could be merged into some other article? The Last Hungry Cat (talk) 14:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete and WP:SALT. This is the third time this has been brought to AFD, and every time its brought here the term "Trump effect" has a different definition. That's because its a WP:NEOLOGISM without clear definition.4meter4 (talk) 05:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, I agree that the attempts to create an article under this name have all be nonsense but I do think a redirect to Trumpism could be useful here. It seems clear that this is a term the media uses. Esolo5002 (talk) 06:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a legitimate subject, and there are publications about it (e.g. [17]), but the page is merely a set of random quotations. My very best wishes (talk) 14:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Reuteurs wrote this is non-notable. This is basically a list of quotes, I'm not sure how this is an "effect" whe there is little to no critical discussion of this concept. Seems like an attack page of sorts. Oaktree b (talk) 22:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael McLean (broadcaster)

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I could not find coverage to meet WP:BIO. Only 1 other article links to this. LibStar (talk) 04:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom; I searched and was unable to find meaningful coverage of this individual. Left guide (talk) 08:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete he was also known as 'magic' and 'mago' and there is also a Australian footballer called Michael 'Magic' McLean, which confuses things. The broadcaster was clearly liked and admired, but there's not enough coverage out there to pass WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. There are many similar names that make confusing and difficult to search but was able to find one more source here[18]. If this is added I think it could pass minimum notability given that the subject is deceased. Mekomo (talk) 11:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Horizontal or vertical, he has to pass WP:GNG, and a short obit in a radio trade title won't do that... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People's Republic of China's civilian motor vehicle license plates

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Odd fork of Vehicle registration plates of China. Another editor redirected it there, but was reverted with the (dubious, in my opinion) reason that "zh wiki has two separate articles". Most of the content here duplicates Vehicle registration plates of China and I can find no compelling reason to keep a fork. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Some contents are duplicated with Vehicle registration plates of China. Shwangtianyuan Defeat the virus together 14:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or Redirect to retain the functionality of the language switcher from zh.wp. The xtools reports for the zh articles are pretty interesting: the vehicle registration plates article is slightly older, but the civilian vehicle registration plates article has fifteen times as many inlinks and sees three times as much traffic. Both have similar numbers of edits and distinct editors. This isn't an argument for or against any course of action here, but the fork is somewhat mystifying. Folly Mox (talk) 11:59, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Redirect to Vehicle registration plates of China. Technically a merge is okay, but the overlap here is massive, making a merge unnecessary. For instance, most of the "civilian" article consists of the list of prefixes by province, which is already included in its entirety in the main article. I consider the "civilian" article a content fork and it should not be kept. Toadspike [Talk] 08:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. Massive overlap. This is a plausible topic, but it is untenable with this cross-article organizational issue. Redirecting does not remove significant content. The article can be restored when editors decide to treat this is a proper spinoff, when they figure out what to put where and how to summarize what was left at the parent article. The current state of things is not helpful to readers.—Alalch E. 15:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Cockeram

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Does not pass GNG. All mentions appear to be passing mentions and no SIGCOV. Grahaml35 (talk) 03:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. Like nom I am only able to find passing metions, no significant coverage. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 04:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 05:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Kablammo (talk) 08:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Support all reasons given above. Mekomo (talk) 11:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More Tyme

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Non notable musician. Spam from blocked sock farm who built a walled garden Lot Fire Records. Refbombed with lots of PR placements which lack independence. Really not a good idea to try pass off the same press release as two different articles [19], [20]. "In general, "Balage" is an awe-inspiring addition to More Tyme's expanding discography. It truly showcases their exceptional musical talent and artistic vision, making it an appealing choice for both long-time fans and new listeners seeking fresh and innovative sounds. The song serves as a testament to More Tyme's unwavering dedication to their craft, setting a high standard for their future releases." Obvious PR. Wikipedia is not a PR platform. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTPROMO. Additionally, fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Oh, there are MORE of these? The press releases truly surpass the excellence of fabulousness to enter a new realm of unexpected delight. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Off Ryine

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Non notable musician. Spam from blocked sock farm who built a walled garden Lot Fire Records. Refbombed with lots of PR placements which lack independence. "As Off Ryine continues to pave the way for the next generation of Ugandan musicians, his legacy as a singer-songwriter remains firmly rooted in the history and spirit of Uganda. Through his music, he has brought the rich traditions of his country to the world stage, earning accolades and admiration for his unwavering commitment to preserving and celebrating Ugandan culture." Obvious PR. Wikipedia is not a PR platform. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTPROMO. Additionally, fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Lot Fire records is an automatic red flag now. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Siizer

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Non notable musician. Spam from blocked sock farm who built a walled garden for Lot Fire Records. Refbombed with lots of PR placements which lack independence. Really not a good idea to try pass off the same press release as two different articles [21], [22]. "In the ever-evolving world of music, where talent is plentiful and creativity knows no bounds, there are individuals who rise above the rest, setting new standards and blazing trails in the industry. One such luminary is the accomplished musician and music executive, Bash Luks, ...". Obvious PR. Wikipedia is not a PR platform. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTPROMO. Additionally, fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete although this will rob the world of the opportunity to access the sources used and such timeless prose as "The partnership between Jim Siizer and Lot Fire Records is poised to set new standards in the industry, ushering in a promising era of musical excellence." Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lot Fire Records

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Non notable business. Spam from blocked sock farm who built a walled garden. Lacks independent coverage about it, lots of PR placement which don't satisfy sourcing criterea, lacking independence. Wikipedia is not a PR platform. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page that just reproduces content from the main page:

duffbeerforme (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge all to Bash Luks and copy edit/trim for encyclopedic tone. While I can understand the need to cleanup after a sock editor with a coi, the referencing in this case is not bad. The articles use multiple reliable news sources from Uganda and Ghana where Bash Luks and/or Lot Fire Records are the primary subject. The Kampala Dispatch and Tower Post are reputable newspapers. News Ghana is a reputable news portal. Capital Radio (ie 91.3 Capital FM) is also reputable. There is certainly enough reliable secondary coverage to support an article on Bash Luks per WP:BASIC/WP:GNG. At this point I think Lot Fire Records would be better covered in that article because I don't think the record label as yet passes WP:NCORP. The list is small, and doesn't need to be a stand alone article.4meter4 (talk) 03:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Sourced to press releases, the whole enterprise, its artists, its CEO are not notable. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Davide Lombardi

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A draft that was moved into mainspace. It's mostly sourced with press releases. A WP:BEFORE search failed. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 02:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV (barely). There definitely needs to be some serious pruning of bad promotional sources and writing, reformatting of the article, editing for encyclopedic tone, etc. However, there are four articles among the references which are independent significant coverage about Davide Lombardi; three of which are in the LightSoundJournal, which is a professional publication for light and audio engineers, and one of which is from an Italian media source. He works as a sound engineer for notable artists, so I am leaning on the keep side.4meter4 (talk) 03:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4 That's a valid point; however, a reminder to anyone else reading this that Lombardi doesn't inherit notability from the people he works with. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 04:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete They are all interviews - and in trade media, at that. The other sources are blogs or references to events where the subject has worked. Doesn't pass WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charlotte Sartre

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Fails WP:GNG. No WP:SIGCOV from secondary sources that shows notability. Demt1298 (talk) 02:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 02:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She is the subject of a number of profiles including Las Vegas Weekly, Jezebel, and Paper. She's also discussed in several academic sources as seen from a Google Scholar search: [23]. I think there is enough to meet GNG. Thriley (talk) 04:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Skaro

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A large, entirely summary-style article covering the home planet of the Daleks, Skaro. All sources used in the article are either primary or information used for basic verification, and a BEFORE for Skaro turned up a lot of fantastic sources on the Daleks, but Skaro was only mentioned in passing in many of these. Skaro received reference in a lot of summaries of the Daleks and their origins, but did not receive any analysis separately from the Dalek species. I searched through News (Which only turned up plot summary and trivial mentions of the planet), Books (Which turned up several fantastic sources for the Dalek species, but only trivial mentions of the planet), and Scholar (Which turned up similar results to Books.) This subject is not individually notable of the Daleks, and is only mentioned in passing in every source that mentions it, lacking any form of SIGCOV that would mean it would pass the GNG. A logical AtD is to the Daleks, as it is their home planet and mentioned multiple times throughout the article in the species' backstory. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect/Merge to Dalek; some of the info can be copied to Dalek to expand it. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect/Merge to Dalek makes sense. An article doesn't. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Dalek; History of the Daleks probably should also be merged there. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Handy, Benton County, Indiana

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This was and is a rail point. Formerly it was a crossing of two lines, and the building displayed in the article was the tower which controlled the interlocking. Now the track going north has been abandoned and there is only a junction with the southern line; all of this trackage now belongs to the Kankakee, Beaverville and Southern Railroad. There is a farm immediately adjacent, but it is a farm, not a town. Mangoe (talk) 01:15, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Rail junctions are not communities, and therefore are subject to WP:GNG which is clearly and obviously not met. (Although I like the photo of the old tower, I hope someone preserves that from destruction). WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kilbil St Joseph's High School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Only a primary source provided. 4 google news hits, none indepth. LibStar (talk) 00:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sulaiman Ismail

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No notable career achievements that can be verified. News coverage is nonexistent. He is the brother of Rocket Ismail, however per WP:BLPRELATED, that is irrelevant. 162 etc. (talk) 22:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete My search didn't find significant independent coverage that meets WP:GNG and the article has none. His football career was not WP notable nor were his forays into competitive martial arts. Papaursa (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No notable achievements, only played collegial and amateur in MMA. Also having a "black belt" is not sufficient for wiki notability. fails WP:SPORTS, WP:MMA and fails WP:GNG. Lekkha Moun (talk) 06:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, plenty of coverage to pass GNG: 1990 (Times-Leader), 1991 (Times-Leader), 1991 (Citizens' Voice), 1997 (Post-Standard), 2001 (Times-Leader), 2002 (Citizens' Voice), 2012 (Times-Leader), etc. @Papaursa, Lekkha Moun, and 162 etc.: BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:17, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, yes he's being written about, but is it anything actually notable?

1990 - Suspended from high school football team

1991 - Excelled at high school track meet

1997 - Won a low-level boxing match

2001 - Signed an AFL contract (nb: ultimately did not play)

2002 - Charged after allegedly punching a DEA agent

2012 - Scheduled for upcoming low-level MMA event

Does that mean he should be in an encyclopedia? What exactly is his claim to notability? 162 etc. (talk) 17:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, he received a "bloody beating" according to that 1997 article. According to boxrec.com he lost both of his pro boxing fights. That coverage was essentially a report in a Syracuse paper on a bottom of the card fight in Syracuse. Otherwise, all of the other sources are from two Wilkes-Barre papers where he lived. None of which appear to be notable coverage, plus multiple references from the same source count as 1 source (at most). Competing in amateur MMA fights has never shown WP notability. Still not seeing WP:GNG, or any SNG, being met. Papaursa (talk) 22:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whether you think that his accomplishments are insignificant is irrelevant; whether he meets the MMA SNG is also irrelevant – the only factor that goes into determining notability at this point is whether the coverage is significant. That's it. GNG makes no mention of "exceptions" on if the coverage is for MMA fights – the only thing that matters is if there's "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Feature stories like this are clearly SIGCOV and being local is irrelevant (not to mention there was other articles I didn't list, including a few stories from Texas). He meets GNG – he's notable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:08, 12 November 2024 (UTC)\[reply]

There are millions of articles on people in small town papers who aspire to be professional singers, athletes, actors, etc. Even though they never succeed, you're claiming that coverage is sufficient to show WP notability? Or are you influenced because he has notable brothers (which should have no impact on his notability)? I never claimed MMA notability was required, but some kind of achievement is, or at least coverage that is more significant than millions of others in the world have received. Papaursa (talk) 21:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are millions of articles on people in small town papers ... you're claiming that coverage is sufficient to show WP notability? According to WP:GNG, significant coverage is sufficient. The notability guidelines mention nothing of excluding coverage for accomplishments if one (arbitrarily) deems them as insignificant. Additionally, I don't think that there's "millions" of people who "never succeed in their aspirations" who receive feature stories in moderately large newspapers in several states across the U.S. (Texas, Pennsylvania, New York, etc.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Passes GNG. The first few of BeanieFan11's sources look like they're from high school but the others look okay. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:SIGCOV based on the sources provided by Beanie. There’s sufficiently detailed press coverage across time to meet our general notability guidelines. SNGs like the one on MMA are only one pathway to notability, and those guidelines are not meant to replace and subvert GNG. Also, any article meeting GNG in athletics will meet WP:SPORTSBASIC which this article does.4meter4 (talk) 16:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The sources are problematic. The 'Times Leader' is the 'Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania Times Leader', a local newspaper. Similarly The Citizen of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. The Syracuse Post Standard is similarly not the New York Times. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Suggesting the sources are "problematic" because several are local is not supported by any policy. Furthermore, suggesting that one needs to have coverage in The New York Times to be notable is also ridiculous. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Old Wolverton Road Bridge

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Prod-ed and de-prod-ed this a day or two ago, because I wasn't 100% sure how it might be seen to pass GNG (note that bridges, under WP:NBUILD, do not have specific notability requirements, the two lines circle back to WP:GNG. I'm putting it to AfD now as I do not believe this bridge satisfies GNG, because save for being a listed structure, I cannot see how it is actually notable in its own right. Cheerio, Mattdaviesfsic. About me; Talk to me. Farewell fellow editor... 00:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. It has an official listing on the National Heritage List for England. This passes the historic requirement at WP:NBUILD.4meter4 (talk) 02:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. - See ref number 1 - "Railway Bridge 171D (Skew Bridge) (1389359)". National Heritage List for England. — Maile (talk) 05:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Lords and margraves of Bergen op Zoom

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Uncited article on an unnotable office. -Samoht27 (talk) 00:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Bergen op Zoom#History (provided it is properly sourced). That article mentions the margravate. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge indeed. Title abolished in 1795 is a fascinating footnote and barely more. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think the article is too large to merge into the Bergen op Zoom history section, the result would be too unbalanced. I have provided three references. Bergen op Zoom is very proud of its history as margraviate. The palace of the margraves is a wonderful museum. The article on the list of Lords and Margraves is very interesting and useful.Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 17:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Judeo-Ge'ez

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Term does simply not exist.--Hellenyck (talk) 16:55, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete no sources. The references are fake. --Altenmann >talk

Delete as WP:Original research. I wouldn't call it "fake" so much as an original framing. Beta Israel is a real people group and they did speak Ge'ez with their own dialect. The first source is pretty clear to call it the "Agaw dialect" and doesn't use the term "Judeo-Ge'ez". Its looks like this article is re-naming the Agaw dialect "Judeo-Ge'ez" without any supporting sources for that re-naming. But, it isn't all that odd of a re-naming considering the Agaw people were Ethiopian Jews who had their own dialect of Ethiopian speech.4meter4 (talk) 21:56, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didnt say sources are fake. I say refs are fake, because sources cited do not support article text. --Altenmann >talk 22:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agaw: not exactly so: our Agaw people article says that "have practiced what some described as a “Hebraic religion”, though some also practiced Ethiopian Orthodoxy, and many were Beta Israel Jews", i.e., they should not be conflated. --Altenmann >talk 22:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]